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Iris Khan	Posted - 2011.05.19 08:24:00 - [1] The OP is obscure. Would be nice if ccp would explain better on what they are trying to achieve.
Iris Khan	Posted - 2011.05.19 09:04:00 - [2] Originally by: Maliente Nevor CCP, you just fixed something that wasnt broken. Good going! Yeh I think people were happy with the mission system as it was.
Iris Khan	Posted - 2011.05.19 09:20:00 - [3] Originally by: CCP Navigator Originally by: suki cox I hope this doesnt completely moot all the grinding for R&D agents ive been doing... Research and Development agents are unchanged. There will be a blog coming out shortly regarding the skill book changes in full.
Iris Khan	Posted - 2011.05.19 13:04:00 - [4] Originally by: C0SMIC GIRL Very optimistic of you thinking server will be up in about 3 or 4 hours. My isk is on the server not to be up and running till at least 21.00 utc Yep. expect the worst and hope for the best.
Iris Khan	Posted - 2011.05.19 13:14:00 - [5] Edited by: Iris Khan on 19/05/2011 13:14:44 Originally by: skreeDK Originally by: Gideon Stargazer Thanks for screwing over the players again with a 9.5 hour time frame of being down. Since we dont get to play during this time what type of compensation are you offering? That amount of time a person can make quite a bit of money working or what not so how about $95 paid to current subrcribers or a 6 months free play time since that about what the cost would be? Come on you bent us over and dont expect us to cry ****! Christ! How spoiled can you get?! There's a scheduled downtime of 30 minutes every freaking day, but still, most days you can log on after only 10-15 minutes of downtime. So, how are you going to compensate CCP for giving you more than you pay for?! According to a monthly subscription fee of Ç19.95 a 9.5 hour downtime during a normal 23.5 hours day (excluding the .5hr normal dt) would cost the user Ç 0.089. Where does he get the 6 month free play reimbursment again?
Iris Khan	Posted - 2011.05.19 13:22:00 - [6] Originally by: Iluja Murumetc This is not good, someone working in a particular direction with certain agents, but now in a heap. The beauty of this game in multi-directional characters. EVE is not for children who do not look so to simplify the gameplay. You spoil it by combining the types, classes, directions. This change is not making the game for children. People resist change even when it is for the better. Look towards the long term goals of EVE.
Iris Khan	Posted - 2011.05.19 13:31:00 - [7] Edited by: Iris Khan on 19/05/2011 13:31:33 Originally by: Thorn Galen Originally by: KingSkunk Just 1 question I have will steam users get this patch today it would be nice if us steam users could play the game today oh I see all the greifers are ****ed about not being able to hunt down their non pvp WT you guys need to grow some balls and head into low sec where there are 1000's of pvp players just waiting for you all to come play, oh just 1 more thing for all you greifers there's no challenge in war decing a corp thats full of 2 week old players so I dont see why you do it and then complain that ccp is making it harder for you all to do your homework on corps lol .\|. How very arrogant and stupid to make a comment like that. So because many people enjoy PVE (and not PVP), they are worthless ? Why don't you grow a brain and think a bit, use it properly. "1000's of PVP players waiting for you all to come play"......Ignorant AND arrogant. 'Nuff Said Thorn. Until CCP starts doling out free ships and mods, PvP players cannot live without PvE players.
Iris Khan	Posted - 2011.05.19 13:40:00 - [8] Edited by: Iris Khan on 19/05/2011 13:45:41 Originally by: Dhaliparton Originally by: Iris Khan Originally by: Iluja Murumetc This is not good, someone working in a particular direction with certain agents, but now in a heap. The beauty of this game in multi-directional characters. EVE is not for children who do not look so to simplify the gameplay. You spoil it by combining the types, classes, directions. This change is not making the game for children. People resist change even when it is for the better. Look towards the long term goals of EVE. And where can we find said long term goals? Never seen them published if someone has a link please share. Seems to me the game is getting simpler for new players (good) and rocking the boat for 0.0 to break down barriers (good for newish players looking to expand their gameplay) and distributing agents to unclog lvl 4 agent systems. I don't personally like the fact that someone can scan an entire system at 64 but I think I'll live. Read the blog look at their videos.. read about fanfest. Just because missions will have a more uniform payout doesnt mean it will become a childrens game. that is ridiculous. there is SO MUCH more about EVE than getting paid by a mission agent. Skill training, optimal ship fitting for PvE or PvP, mining, manufacturing, invention, exploration, and the list goes on. These things take a lot of time and effort to learn how to do effectively. Just PvP alone (ships killing each other) is a lengthy learning process that people learn about over years of play and though one aspect of many in EVE has a lt of components to it. Not the mention the 'sandbox' element of good decision making. It is far from a childrens game and despite this one change in a minute part of the game (mission access and payout) isnt going to turn it into a childrens game. If this small part of the game is everything to you and you feel nerfed by it, then you have not discovered EVE.
Iris Khan	Posted - 2011.05.19 13:54:00 - [9] Edited by: Iris Khan on 19/05/2011 13:55:23 Originally by: Iluja Murumetc Originally by: Iris Khan Originally by: Iluja Murumetc This is not good, someone working in a particular direction with certain agents, but now in a heap. The beauty of this game in multi-directional characters. EVE is not for children who do not look so to simplify the gameplay. You spoil it by combining the types, classes, directions. This change is not making the game for children. People resist change even when it is for the better. Look towards the long term goals of EVE. That is, we are versed and learned some skills in vain? Can then immediately make a book "perfect player" and the whole game to teach her a perfect one? Long-term plans should not spoil the gameplay and its well-established quality, quality that is interesting EVE. Exactly what gameplay is equal payout and access destroying? Dont be silly. I've worked many of my characters through the agents the hard way and frankly I dont see this as a negative change. If this ONE ISSUE destroys your gameplay, just quit EVE now. There is a whole game out there with endless possibilitiies that maybe you're not prepared to discover.
Iris Khan	Posted - 2011.05.19 14:01:00 - [10] Originally by: Modeaus Quote: I agree that if you've been playing for years and are still grinding missions in high sec you've maybe missed the point but these changes will help new players get into the game and with luck push them over the brink into low sec. Where they can be slaughtered like sheep. I think it is these folks who are moaning about the change in this thread.

Iris Khan	Posted - 2011.05.19 14:06:00 - [11] Originally by: Iluja Murumetc Originally by: Iris Khan Why just throw? Is long-term plans EVE? ))) I'm talking about that graduation at 20 different castes among agents was acceptable part of the game, and it was clear what the mission and why you are taking. Social skills were also clearly directed at certain branches of the relationship. What's wrong when the exercises a lot, but it is clear why each of them necessary?[/quote Social skills are reworked. You get reimbursement for any changes they make to yours. You can take your reimbursed skillpoints and re-assign them to the new social skills if you like. So no loss there. My point is... Mission Agents change wont make the game into a childrens game. It will not destroy anyones enjoyment of EVE either.
Iris Khan	Posted - 2011.05.19 14:08:00 - [12] Edited by: Iris Khan on 19/05/2011 14:11:45 Originally by: Sulindra Originally by: Iris Khan Until CCP starts doling out free ships and mods, PvP players cannot live without PvE players. Your wrong. PvP players would continue to do what they do. they wont because there would be no one to supply the resources to build ships. Nor would there be people to build ships or supply them to low or null sec area hubs.. on and on. PvE folks delve into many other aspects other than missions (mining, building, hauling, invention, etc) and a lot of their mods are reprocessed and reused in building cool things like faction stuff among other things that we need in PvP.
Iris Khan	Posted - 2011.05.19 14:58:00 - [13] Originally by: Modeaus Some of the most prolific PvP'ers I know also have a nice side line building ships and T2 stuff. How else do you pay for a new faction fit T3 every time you lose it? Your alt does PI and sucks up gas clouds that's how. Just because it's in low sec doesn't mean it's not PvE. In fact Eve really blurs the line between PvP & PvE. Doesn't EvE stand for "Everything vs Everything"? ;) You've missed my point. those pvp'ers would not have the other side if it didnt exist like many other pvprs are suggesting.
Iris Khan	Posted - 2011.05.19 15:01:00 - [14] More details on how PvE will change. http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=909

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